What Determines God's Wrath?

Execution of God's wrath occurs on the last day.

What Determines God's Wrath?

Postby lastday on Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:50 am

Published Senior Experience, First Baptist Church, Norfolk, VA. Oct, 2006


WHAT DETERMINES GOD’S DAY OF JUDGMENT AND WRATH?

Romans 2:4-5 Rev.6:16-17 Rev.14:10-12

When is God’s “Day of Wrath”? Rom.2:5; Rev.6:17. Should we follow the teaching that God’s wrath

begins when He again deals with Israel at the Endtime? Or does His wrath (orgay) follow the “end

of days” with Christ taking vengeance in one day on all who reject the Gospel”? 2 Thess.1:10. Is God’s

wrath a 7-year process or a one day affair? The latter view was the belief of early Church Fathers. But

Plato taught that God is too exalted to be affected by “perturbations of anger” (thumos). This led to

translating thumos (anger) as "wrath" and gave rise to the belief that, to escape His Plagues of so-

called "wrath", Christians will be removed from earth during the Endtime of great tribulation and wrath!

This tradition of the great difference between anger and wrath (thus banning any reference to a God of

anger) has filtered down thru most Bibles due to Plato’s philosophy as per “The Dictionary of the

Apostolic Church”, published in 1917, by T. Clark.

God’s “makro-thumos” (long-anger) was translated as “long-suffering”. But to avoid translating “thumos”

as “anger”, it was usually translated as “wrath”! Unfortunately this removed the difference! Thumos and

orgay became synonyms instead of antonyms after the “vain tradition” of Plato and Church Fathers! Col.2:8.

As a result, most Christians believe “virtually no difference exists between God’s anger and wrath”!

Paul wrote: “On the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, He will render to every

man according to their deeds…eternal life to those who know His long-anger (makro-thumia) leads to

repentance but indignation (thumos) and wrath (orgay; KJV) to the unrighteous”!! Rom.2:4-5,8. The

NASB inverts thumos and orgay with “wrath and indignation” coming on the wicked so as to ostensibly

avoid describing God as “angry”. Because of this variance in Rom.2:8, the meanings changed from

antonyms to synonyms!!!

The prevailing view today promises that we must be removed from earth to escape the Plagues of God’s

so-called “wrath during the great tribulation”! God’s long-anger (makro-thumos) continues to the Day of

Wrath according to Rom.2:4-5. Only then do His “anger and wrath mix” together. “Great earthquakes

destroy earth’s mountains and cities and move islands out of place. Christ comes to tread the winepress

in anger and wrath”. Blood reaches the horses’ bridles on that Day. Most Bibles mix God’s “wrath

(orgay) with thumos” instead of having His “anger (thumos) mix with orgay”! Rev.14:10.

Because of Plato’s “vain tradition” of God’s aloofness, untouched by anger, translators inverted and

inadvertently made anger and wrath mean the same thing. They effectively fail to show the difference

they intended to show! Translating thumos as “wrath” made the 7 Last Plagues “complete God’s wrath”

instead of “completing His anger”!! Then it is argued being “kept from God’s wrath” means the

Rapture must precede the Tribulation!!! Rev.15:1; 16:1.

This prevailing view results from twisting thumos to mean “wrath” rather than “anger”. In the text leading

up to God’s Hour of Judgment on the Day of Wrath, Rev.14:7; Rom.2:5, most Bibles switch the words

so that God’s wrath (thumos) mixes full strength in His Cup of Anger/Indignation (orgay)! Rev.14:10.

Translations assume the 7 Plagues prematurely “complete God’s wrath”. They terminate God’s long-

anger (patience) seven years too soon!

In discussions on the baptistboard.com, I was branded as presumptuous and guilty of “much ado

about nothing”, of being an “error-schmerror”, as not “seeing the forest for the trees” or of making the

KJV translators a “bunch of retards”. One wrote: “Scripture says God’s anger `burned’ against certain

nations, so wrath must be the brand of hot dogs he makes out of them”. Another: “Error finders and

artists should give us an up-to-date series of `Looney Tunes’"! What about this: “I'm 50% Labrador

retriever. I'll prove it. Get me a Labrador and I'll retrieve it. Have you got a Labrador? Then Shaddup”!

“Why did KJV translators not once render thumos as “anger”? What of twisting "thumos" to mean

“wrath” when it stands alone after first being combined with orgay? We see the two words inverted in

Rev.14:10 to make thumos mean "wrath"! Then with "thumos" standing ALONE in the next 4 instances,

it is assumed that thumos means "wrath"!!! Rev.14:19; Rev.15:1,7; Rev.16:1.

But, finally (and this is utterly inconsistent) when used again with orgay, the KJV translated "thumos" as

less than wrath (fierceness) when it is combined again with "orgay"! They got it right at last!! That is,

after changing thumos to mean "wrath", it would have made no sense to combine "wrath with wrath"!!!

Rev.16:19; Rev.19:15.

Why has the Holy Spirit not revealed that God's "long-anger" (makro-thumia and mega-thumia"; Rev.

14:19), finally merges with His wrath on the Day of Wrath to destroy all who refuse to repent? [Yet He

allows Israel en masse to “mourn, beg to escape and be kept alive”]. Matt.24:30; Luke 21:36; Luke

17:30-33; Rom.11:25-27.

If translators had rendered thumos as anger instead of wrath, Strong’s Concordance would not have

made them synonymous! By inverting these words, even in Eph.4:31 and Col.3:8 with respect to us,

we are now infected by a NEW "tradition" that eliminates the difference between anger and wrath but,

when both words are combined, wrath becomes “anger” and anger becomes “wrath”!

The "switch" blurs God’s wrath that refers ONLY to the “horrors” of Hell. Eternal torment comes when

armies gather to the plains of Armageddon. After the Plagues “exhaust God's thumos"

(New Jerusalem Bible), none of the wicked will escape. Rev.6:16-17; Rev.16:17-21.

The KJV never rendered #2372 as “anger”. Even with humans who ARE subject to anger, orgay

was translated as “anger” and thumos as “wrath” in Eph.4:31and Col.3:8. The meanings are

twisted in the text on Hell. Rev.14:10-12. Bound by tradition and the philosophy of Platonism,

they stuck with human reasoning lest they demean the character of God as subject to the human

emotion of anger. But did so at the cost of making both words mean virtually the same thing.

God's long-anger allows men to repent for 1900 years and then mixes with wrath to "destroy the

destroyers of earth" in one day, the last day! Thumos "mixes with orgay when God takes

vengeance on the Day Christ comes in flaming fire against those who refuse the Gospel!! He

raises up and gathers the Elect; on one of the days immediately after the great tribulation; at the

(kairos) “time appointed by the 7th Trumpet"! 2 Thess.1:7-10; Mark 13:24-27; Matt.24:29-31;

Rev.6:16-17; Rev.11:18; Rev.16:19-21; Rev.19:15-21. In Revelation God’s wrath is first mentioned

at the 6th Seal, the signs of which occur “after the great tribulation”. His wrath is not mentioned

again until the 7th Trumpet as "God is not willing any should perish ... certainly not until that last day

comes after men treasure up wrath against the day of wrath ... after God has endured the vessels

of wrath prepared for destruction". 2 Pet.3:9; Rom.2:4-5; Rom.9:22.

God's "long-thumia" (long-suffering; Latin) permits evil men to repent until the "Day of Wrath"!

Beast worshipers gathered to Armageddon will perish as “the wine of God's anger mixes in

the Cup of His wrath”! Rev.14:10-12.

The KJV correctly translates thumos as “indignation" in Romans 2:8 (where the Textus

Receptus has "thumos and orgay" with thumos coming first). But in Rev.14:10, it is just

the opposite when it translates thumos as "wrath" and orgay as "indignation"! More

recently discovered manuscripts have "orgay and thumos" instead of "thumos and orgay"

in Rom.2:8. This adds to the confusion with thumos as "indignation" in the T.R. and orgay

as “indignation” in other manuscripts!! It's confusing because it again blurs the truth of

God withholding wrath until the Day of Wrath!!!

The wine of His anger, not wrath, mixes in the Cup of Wrath...and then pours out on all

those who reject the Gospel on the Day of Wrath after the Last Plague empties in the air;

after Seal 6 reveals the “Day of God’s and the Lamb’s Wrath has come”; after the 7th

Trumpet proclaims the "appointed (kairos) hour of God's wrath has come"!!! Rev.16:17;

Rev.6:17; Rev.11:18.

God’s wrath immediately destroys Babylon and Beast worshipers at the 7th Trumpet. The

failure to recognize a "philosophy of vain deceit" (Col.2:8) has infected our view of the

unexpectedness of God's wrath! Men have "inverted" the meaning of anger and wrath based

on Plato's false view that we must not attribute to God the human emotion of "anger"!! They

superficially covered a falsehood by making "thumos and orgay" interchangeable and then

inadvertently destroyed the very concept they intended to uphold!!!

They erased the distinction between patience and wrath until His anger mixes in the Cup of

Wrath on the Day Christ appears! The KJV could have translated: "Plagues complete His

indignation" since they do not complete or contain His wrath. If the words anger and wrath

are interchangeable, it wouldn’t have mattered if the KJV had translated thumos as “anger”!!

But long-anger continues to the last day. The Cup of God's combined “anger and wrath" pours

out its deadly wine after the last Plague empties in the air; after exhausting His anger; after the

6th Seal opens and the 7th Trumpet proclaims "God's wrath has come"!!! Rev.11:18.

God's long-anger means He is unwilling for any to perish. His patience will no longer be

operative toward those who "disobey the Gospel ON THE DAY Christ comes in flaming

fire and vengeance". His orgay will be quick and total and eternal...without mercy toward

the unrepentant and without excuse for those "blaspheming His name as their tongues rot

in their mouths"! The OT agrees that “sinners are exterminated on the Day of the Lord

when His anger and wrath” unite. Isa.13:9-13.

"All who beg for mercy on that day (including ALL Israel) will be saved. There’s no escape

for those who continue to "blaspheme God"; yet during the 4th and 5th Plagues, these

wicked men have an option to repent...while the days of salvation remain. Rev.16:9-11.

“Wrath”, being applied inadvertently to the Plagues (Rev.15:1,7; Rev.16:1), has been used to

allow us to escape “the tribulation of (so-called) wrath”. The Day of Wrath is not a 7-year

“day”. Rom 5:9; I Thess.5:9. This new, infectious tradition of men mistakenly assumes God’s

anger and wrath are virtually the same. It supports the theory that we are not “appointed to

suffer the great tribulation”. What a shock if the DAY of God’s Wrath is not 7 years; but a

single 12-Hour-Day!

Consider that Day as being the Lastday. Beginning with Rev.6:12, whatever leads up to

that day John describes in retrospect; as in Flashbacks! Since Seal 6 opens “after the

great tribulation”, Seal 7 also opens afterward. With the last seal broken, the Scroll’s inner

contents come into full view. A half hour of silence ends showing the 6th Trumpet had already

killed two billion people, a third of mankind!

In that half hour Martyrs witness the video display of evidence for God’s judgment. In the hour

of the great quake that kills 7000 Beast worshipers in a tenth of Jerusalem, the Two Prophets

are caught up to heaven to join all the Martyrs for Christ in the Judgment and Verdict symbolized

by fire cast to earth from the Altar in the Temple! Rev.8:1-5. “No one was able to enter the Temple

until the last of 7 Plagues had emptied in the air…for the Temple had been filled with the smoke of

God’s glory and power”!! Rev.15:8. At the 7th Trumpet, the "temple was open"!!! Rev.11:19.
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